!important! : thoughts which might save the world

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Yesterday I was talking to nova33 about why she loves Johnny/Evan, and there was this exchange:

unlurkster: yessss. I approve of this.
OH OH
you know what?? I would like for this to be, like, an actually fake war
where they're just-kidding-no-really, and when they meet to hook up they have teasing hatesex that isn't really hatesex, only sometimes the boundaries between what they meant and didn't mean are
nova33: Yes!
OR
unlurkster: kind of blurred to even themselves
nova33: It really is just a weird sort of sexual tension. Like...they don't really like each other - so they're not terribly fond when they actually do get together - but all the shit they say to the press is just an extended form of pigtail-pulling.
So when they see each other it's genuine anger - "You implied I was gay!" "You said I was untalented!" - but it's all sort of a game.
Yes????
unlurkster: oh mannnn yes! it's just a lot of weirdness crackling between them, sexually, and they don't know what they mean and what they don't mean
YES YES YES. let's have a BRAIN TWIN HI-FIVE, c'mon

And right there I guess is the kind of Johnny/Evan dynamic that's my favourite, the codependency and the frustration and the need. I mean, I can buy a whole bunch of different readings of their relationship (and so can Johnny & Evan! look at how spectacularly retconned their rivalry is!), but this I think is the definitive one that punches me in the gut and makes me believe, before I remember that Johnny/Stéphane is my OTP (tin-fucking-hat, you guys). I don't know, I find this the most exciting part of entering a fandom, getting to know who the hell these people are and who you ship and why you ship them ("they're pretty" is still a reason, fyi), and also basically thinking about it a whole bunch and also having really intense conversations about it, um.

So, anyway! Why do you ship what you ship, dudes? COME TALK TO ME ABOUT THIS.

Comments

[nova33.livejournal.com]

Responding to both comments here - I was in Australia for four and a half years, so yes? I guess that's a while.

I'm sure I have links for the episodes somewhere, because the internet is obliging, most of the time. I'll see if I can find them.

Oh man, I love this stupid fandom, but because I'm not in school at the moment, I just sit at home refreshing kink meme threads and watching figure skating programs for hours on end. I'm thinking that's not exactly healthy.

We could be friends? And then the PMing could happen! If you'd like, that is.

[melonsplash.livejournal.com]

Yes - soon we will both be enlightened to whatever the heck everyone's talking about on BGJW (I think I've only seen the foot massager scene so far :P).

Oh man, I love this stupid fandom, but because I'm not in school at the moment, I just sit at home refreshing kink meme threads and watching figure skating programs for hours on end. I'm thinking that's not exactly healthy.
Omg, are you me?

Sure thing. I'm Melon, by the way.

[nova33.livejournal.com]

That's the only scene I've seen, too! So many times.

Ahahaha, possibly? Seriously, I spent all of last weekend watching old routines. I fully blame _skating, and a RL friend of mine who is so, so pleased that soemone else is into skating. (Though she is baffled that it is me, of all people.)

Nice to meet you! (as it were) I'm Elena. *waves*