extemporally: (begood: stephane&johnny)
extemporally ([personal profile] extemporally) wrote2010-05-02 08:08 pm

!important! : thoughts which might save the world

Yesterday I was talking to [livejournal.com profile] nova33 about why she loves Johnny/Evan, and there was this exchange:

[livejournal.com profile] unlurkster: yessss. I approve of this.
OH OH
you know what?? I would like for this to be, like, an actually fake war
where they're just-kidding-no-really, and when they meet to hook up they have teasing hatesex that isn't really hatesex, only sometimes the boundaries between what they meant and didn't mean are
[livejournal.com profile] nova33: Yes!
OR
[livejournal.com profile] unlurkster: kind of blurred to even themselves
[livejournal.com profile] nova33: It really is just a weird sort of sexual tension. Like...they don't really like each other - so they're not terribly fond when they actually do get together - but all the shit they say to the press is just an extended form of pigtail-pulling.
So when they see each other it's genuine anger - "You implied I was gay!" "You said I was untalented!" - but it's all sort of a game.
Yes????
[livejournal.com profile] unlurkster: oh mannnn yes! it's just a lot of weirdness crackling between them, sexually, and they don't know what they mean and what they don't mean
YES YES YES. let's have a BRAIN TWIN HI-FIVE, c'mon


And right there I guess is the kind of Johnny/Evan dynamic that's my favourite, the codependency and the frustration and the need. I mean, I can buy a whole bunch of different readings of their relationship (and so can Johnny & Evan! look at how spectacularly retconned their rivalry is!), but this I think is the definitive one that punches me in the gut and makes me believe, before I remember that Johnny/Stéphane is my OTP (tin-fucking-hat, you guys). I don't know, I find this the most exciting part of entering a fandom, getting to know who the hell these people are and who you ship and why you ship them ("they're pretty" is still a reason, fyi), and also basically thinking about it a whole bunch and also having really intense conversations about it, um.

So, anyway! Why do you ship what you ship, dudes? COME TALK TO ME ABOUT THIS.
ext_3762: girl reading outside in sunshine (music)

[identity profile] harborshore.livejournal.com 2010-05-02 01:26 pm (UTC)(link)
My competence kink is, um, a mile wide might be underestimating it (do you KNOW why I fell headfirst for The Like? The music being well-written, oh my god, I went "...there it goes, my heart." And that note about her hooking up her guitarpedals for Ryan, I was like, "Z BERG. *___*")

But yes. I've had so many conversations with [livejournal.com profile] torakowalski that amount to "THEY ARE SO RIDICULOUS" and "OMG THEM." Like, okay, that whole twitter loyalty thing (there were a couple of other things too). And because they've known each other for so long, there's this perfect opportunity to write Pining with a capital P that just goes on and on and neither of them daring to say anything until one of them does something like jump out of a plane or get set on fire, which prompts that most adorable of declarations of love: "You ever do that again and I will kill you myself, do you hear me?" Anyway, that's the characterization behind my big bang from last year, the three seconds of Bob/Brian in it, anyway. "Idiot" is a very romantic epithet, okay?

Ahem, I'll shut up now. Every time I think I'm tired of them I do this.