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Heeey, what's up. It's only 10 a.m. over here and I feel so cranky already! I am mostly cheering myself up by thinking about how awesome Asada Mao is. She competed at the 2008 Worlds without a coach, you guys. And then she won! Is that not amazing! She is pretty awesome.

Additional pet peeve:

-- I dislike it when people refer to East Asian skaters by "given name, family name". That is not how it goes! I always twitch when I see mentions of "Yu-Na Kim", although weirdly enough I always catch myself calling Mao "Mao Asada" in my head. This is when I >:( at myself again.

But here are some things that makes me happy:

-- Mao is the South Koreans' favourite Japanese celebrity. Yu-Na is the Japanese' favourite Korean celebrity. :D!

-- They are BFFs. THERE CAN BE NO HATESEX WITH THEM. EVER. (Um, that came out a little cranky.)

-- Mao's pretty.

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And she triple axels like a BAMF! Mao &hearts

I had the same name order problem during the 2008 Summer Olympics with Cseh László. Then again, I was mostly happy that the poor guy got any media attention at all, considering it was the summer of Michael Phelps. :\

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For whatever reason I don't jump to the family-given thing with Japanese people? Mostly because Japanese people tend to have longer names (this is just from my experiences with my own family). I usually try to figure out what the person prefers. Like, I would always try to refer to Yu-na as Kim Yu-na (and I write it Yu-na because that is how her name ended up getting romanized).

I dislike it when people refer to East Asian skaters by "given name, family name".

YES. and this goes for every sports broadcaster ever >:(

awwww, they're so pretty together! I love inter-country rivals who are actually best buddies.

Yu-Na/Mao is ♥

I agree about the names, also it's Yu-Na, not Yuna!

Stop feeling cranky! I'm reading Johnny/Stephane fics, what more do you want?

Asada Mao (look, I'm learning!) does seem pretty damn awesome.

when i was watching the olympics, they made a point of saying that since she had been training in North America she preferred to go by given name, surname and so that's why they were calling her that. So it could be her choice?

She competed at the 2008 Worlds without a coach, you guys.
DAMN, GIRL. And she is indeed gorgeous.

although weirdly enough I always catch myself calling Mao "Mao Asada" in my head.
I do that too, while I'm on board with 'Kim Yu-Na'. Maybe our brains uses the 'shorter name first' sorting method?

It's interesting, I did a lot of thinking about the name order issue, as I'm Chinese-American and did a lot of East Asian history stuff, and for skaters I consciously decided to just standardize within my writing for the fandom of given name first, then family name. In large part this is because I am writing in American English and that's what the American media does (though if a particular skater specifically expresses a preference of how they are referred to in English-language media, I will likely conform to that -- for a purely spelling-related example, I've started to spell Plushenko's given name Evgeni in my head, whereas before he had a twitter I wasn't really sure b/c NBC spelled it differently and other online sources used a third spelling as well... actually it occurs to me that Yuna Kim's twitter has her name as "Yuna Kim," so perhaps I should take out the hyphen), and I think there's something to be said for the clarity and pattern of it.

The odd part is that within East Asian academic scholarship, I was very very intent on keeping the name order right. But I think that it's sort of... contextual. I have made my peace with standardization based on language for fic.

I have a feeling that if I were ever to write fic in Chinese, I would use the Chinese name order for anyone whose name is expressed in characters, and would try to cobble together the kind of names Chinese teachers give Westerners when they study Chinese for people who usually use Roman letters.

Still, I can see why it bothers you. I'm not sure why it doesn't bother me in the same way... maybe I'm just used to having my given name first for American documents and family name first for Chinese ones, I guess.

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